tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3920640965536781054.post2914781892123722689..comments2024-01-07T12:38:39.465-06:00Comments on Clean Cut: As Droves Out Our WindowsClean Cuthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08383123314458721660noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3920640965536781054.post-76299846821965969792013-05-16T10:03:16.073-05:002013-05-16T10:03:16.073-05:00"It is past time to quit sanitizing the histo..."It is past time to quit sanitizing the history of the church"<br /><br />Ditto. I've felt that way for a long time now.<br /><br />http://latterdayspence.blogspot.com/2010/04/another-reason-i-appreciate-candor.html<br /><br />http://latterdayspence.blogspot.com/2011/03/uncomfortably-negative-for-some.html<br /><br />"Yeah, a little more meat"<br /><br />Again, ditto.<br /><br />I've lost count how often I've heard the phrase "milk before meat"--the problem though is when we never get around to the meat people start getting really tired of just milk.<br /><br />And I've worried about how much nourishment is gained in some of our meetings in the past:<br /><br />http://latterdayspence.blogspot.com/2011/09/improving-our-sacrament-meetings.html<br /><br />Clean Cuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08383123314458721660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3920640965536781054.post-30991868838056714112013-05-11T00:42:03.308-05:002013-05-11T00:42:03.308-05:00Where to place the blame? On the members for not ...Where to place the blame? On the members for not doing research on the church and on doctrine/teachings outside of Sunday School on their own? Or on the Church leaders for not addressing these issues on a continual basis in manuals and publications? And on the leaders for staying silent on issues as they arise? Or for teaching Bishops and Stake Presidents to tell members with questions to read the Scriptures and pray harder, or to not worry about it, or it isn't important? I think all are to blame, but feel the SLC leadership bears the brunt. I realize the objective of the Gospel and the church is to bring people to Christ. But it is past time to quit sanitizing the history of the church. I think it would also help, in lessons, to compare discovered ancient religious writings to the doctrine to show that Joseph Smith could not have made this stuff up. Yeah, a little more meat. And there is much more that could be done by SLC. JRSGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3920640965536781054.post-53946582752012114122012-02-01T14:12:55.636-06:002012-02-01T14:12:55.636-06:00Assuming some readers might not understand my titl...Assuming some readers might not understand my title, I'll just briefly explain that Jeffrey R. Holland gave a talk in the year 2000 titled "As Doves to Our Windows", in which he quoted early Church leaders who longed for the day that people would flock into the Church "as doves to our windows".<br /><br />The current trend is of many going the other direction after being introduced to difficult issues in church history (or who otherwise become disaffected for legitimate reasons) leaving the faith in numbers that haven't been seen "since Kirtland" (to quote Elder Jensen) and many others having to dramatically adjust their beliefs in order to remain active.Clean Cuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08383123314458721660noreply@blogger.com